reCHARGE® Your Life

Ep37: Maggie Malone reCHARGED

July 21, 2021 Dr. Keri Ohlrich & Kelly Guenther
reCHARGE® Your Life
Ep37: Maggie Malone reCHARGED
Show Notes Transcript

Yep, we have an Olympian on our podcast! What timing! We could not be more thrilled to have Maggie Malone as our guest. She holds the American record in women’s javelin and will be heading to Tokyo representing the US in the 2021 Olympics! Just having her talk about how she trains and focuses would be enough, but we do more at reCHARGE Your Life:) 

Maggie shares her incredibly personal story on her struggles with mental health and the Olympic hangover that she managed after the 2016 Olympics. She had identity issues and needed to figure out how to bounce back and address the actual issues in her life. Maggie was vulnerable and reached out to friends and asked for help. 

She also shares her story on becoming a Christian and the importance that faith has in her life. Raised Catholic, Maggie didn’t have a relationship with Christ. She wanted to find that. Take a listen to Maggie’s story. You will feel inspired and proud to watch her in Tokyo!! 

Maggie is a Client Success Leader at Wildsparq – a powerful, online leadership development tool built for companies that care about their people, their legacy and the impact they will make in the world. Maggie earned her Bachelor of Education in Human Resources Development as well as her Master’s degree in Marketing from Texas A&M University.

She ran track at the University of Nebraska before transferring to Texas A&M, where, in 2016, she became the first female javelin thrower to win an NCAA title and U.S. Olympic Team Trials title in the same season! Maggie enjoys playing competitive team sports – volleyball, basketball and softball as well watching movies and singing. 

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Keri [00:00:12] Welcome to the reCHARGE®, Your Life podcast with me, Dr. Keri Ohlrich and Kelly Guenther, we are thrilled to talk to people who have made a decision that reCHARGE® their lives often. They push themselves out of their comfort zones and took risks. We want to know about that decision point. Why did they make that decision? And most importantly, how can we learn from them? Kelly and I are passionate HR professionals, and together we co-founded our HR consulting firm Abbracci Group. We have talked to amazing people throughout our careers and listen to them as they made decisions that changed their lives and knew that these inspirational stories would help others. And why did we call it reCHARGE®? It's based on a book I coauthored called The Way of the HR Warrior. And in it we have a leadership model CHARGE which stands for courage, humility, accuracy, resiliency, goal oriented and exemplary. We know that people used one or more of these qualities to help them make their decisions, and we want to learn from them. Now sit back, listen and be inspired by these stories and then do something to reCHARGE® your life. Let's get to it. 

Kelly [00:01:18] Hi, everyone, it's Kelly. We're so honored to have Maggie Malone as our very special guest, Maggie is a Client Success Leader at Wildsparq, a powerful online leadership development tool both for companies that care about their people, their legacy and the impact they will make in the world. Maggie earned her Bachelor of Education and Human Resources Development, as well as her Master's degree in Marketing from Texas A&M University. A rather exciting first for us on this podcast. Maggie is an Olympian. She ran track at the University of Nebraska before transferring to Texas A&M, where in 2016 she became the first female javelin thrower to win an NCAA title and US Olympic Team Trials title. In the same season, Maggie enjoys playing competitive sports, which include volleyball, basketball and softball, as well as watching movies and singing. So, Maggie, welcome to our podcast. We always like to start by asking what show, podcast, book or blog do you go to when you want to push yourself and expand your thinking? 

Maggie [00:02:22] Oh man. Thanks, Kelly, so much. Really excited to be part of this podcast today, but so the two that I probably listen to the most, and we talked about this a little bit offline, I love Joe Rogan and it is probably one of my favorites because he has a mix of athletes and and then obviously scientists and leadership experts. And so I get to learn from all the different areas that I'm interested in from how to be greatly recovered as an athlete to what does what's happening in the environment and why is that happening in certain areas around that. So that's the first one. The second one that I love is called armchair expert with Dax Shepard. I'm not sure if you've heard of that one, but he has the best experts on very similar to like a Joe Rogan-esque podcast and a lot of humor. So those are those are my go to. 

Keri [00:03:15] Welcome, Maggie, we're so excited to have an Olympian. We can't take it, and Kelly and I are Olympians. We're so God, I can't even the dedication that we would have. I mean, we're live I'm an Olympian and eating candy. I feel like, OK, OK, do that. And we had a great sassy talk with Maggie about video games and the Olympics. So that's like that should be we joke, Maggie, of having paid like reCHARGE® your life after dark. And that will be the superstar. You want to get Maggie real excited about something that you hear about video gamers as athletes in the Olympics. 

Maggie [00:04:01] Stop it. That is so blasphemous in every way. I can't don't don't even put that into the universe. 

Keri [00:04:09] We think it would be so Maggies like ridiculously fun. So, OK, so tell me from what are maybe the top two insights you received from from Joes and Dax's podcast that you're like, man, I keep going back to that one or that's the one I tell people to listen to. 

Maggie [00:04:30] Oh, gosh, there are so many. The one and I cannot remember her name, I think she's the surgeon general of the state of California, possibly. I can't remember exactly what her name is, but she was on Dax Shepherd's podcast and they talked about trauma and they talked about the signs of trauma and children specifically and different areas to look for in order to to help them through the recovery process and what that looks like from a therapeutic standpoint and then maybe going into the foster care system. And that has been one of my absolute favorite podcasts to listen to that one. And then he's also had a lot of people who have come on around social justice in just the conversations around race and American culture. And all of those are just phenomenal conversations. So those are those are definitely the ones from the from Dax's from armchair expert. And then with Joe Rogan. I love any coach, any athlete. Jordan Burroughs was a great episode. He had Gordon Howard, Gordon Howard and he a jujitsu expert. And then, my gosh, the different wrestling coaches, Claressa Shields. I mean, all of these are like Olympians or world champions or just like the best athletes that you could possibly think of. And I love listening to their their recovery and their mindsets and their focus strategies and their mental capacity and just every part of their game. Essentially, I love listening to that and taking different pieces from those conversations and say, OK, how can I implement that into my training, into my everyday lifestyle in order to reach the level of success that they had, actually. Tom Brady was on armchair expert and even listening to some of his I mean, he's been in the game for so long. Love him or hate him. Doesn't matter. You can respect his his process and his game. And so just listening to that and the mental fortitude that goes into being the best is just so inspiring. And I think we can all learn from it. And I certainly have implemented a lot of things and a lot of it's trial and error, too. You got to figure out what works for you. So I think that's that's been some of my favorite. I guess that's why I go to both podcasts is because sometimes if I want to go to, like, worldly, I want to hear from the experts and environment and social justice. I'm going to do that. But I also love the athletic mindset. 

Keri [00:07:08] Yeah, Mag, I have a question and you might go, oh my God, you're so ignorant, so help me. Because when I envision an Olympic athlete, just an athlete in general at that level, at your level where you're number one and and you're the first to do these things, to me, it's such intense focus that like, how do you even make time for other stuff? Because you actually have a full time job. I do. And so I'm thinking like because it's such intense focus and you have to focus on what I'm eating and what I'm doing. Know, we had a talk with Maggie about when does she get the covid vaccine because she can't be sick at all with time of trial every week to get into the Olympics. So I guess, Maggie, like, how do you because you're so well-rounded and so excited, I just believe and because I'm not an athlete, this is where it comes is like just the naivete. I think you have to be so singularly focused that you're really not paying attention. Right. So how do you focus on all these other things and kind of be this well-rounded person without being so maniacal about training and throwing that javelin? 

Maggie [00:08:21] Yeah. So I actually really enjoy the balance of working and training. I don't know if that's something that I will do forever, luckily with Wildsparq and I'm so blessed to work there and it's the best company that I've ever worked for, best leadership and and team that I've gotten to work with. They're so supportive of my schedule and what my needs are. And so I'm not sure what that will look like in the future if if things need to pivot and change based on my career as a javelin thrower. But what I've learned through my career is that in 2016, after I made my first Olympic team, I was so singularly focused and very wrapped up in just Javelin. I mean, it was the only thing that I was focused on and the only thing I really cared about in it. You know, it destroyed me essentially. So for three, four years I struggled a lot with identity and mental health and a lot of issues because that was my only focus. And the only thing I cared about in was so hypersensitive to what people were saying or thinking or how my practices were and what I was eating, I mean, it was just really unhealthy place. And so I think now I've found a lot of balance and have created a lifestyle that supports my javelin throwing, but also because I have work and I have something to lean on outside of. If that practice was a bad practice or if I had a bad competition or whatever it is, I know that I can go back to my workspace and be excellent there and work really hard and be with people who care about me. And so I think the blend of both has actually served me better than when I was singularly focused on Jablin. And I don't know what that's going to look like in the future because there may be a time where I do pivot towards more of the Javelin career, just depending on what God has in place for me and where I think that that path is going to lead. So maybe that's that will transition then. But I definitely was not ready or equipped to handle that in twenty sixteen. So I love the blend. And I do imagine a world where in the future, if I am more focused on Javelin, I will still work in some capacity. Whether that's with Wild Spark or if I'm serving at a hospital or whatever it is. I've worked since I was 12 years old. So I'm from Nebraska. We work in the corn fields very early on. So I have words very early in every every summer or anything. My parents were teachers, so we had to work and so I'm used to it and I enjoy it. And so I don't imagine me not working. I really don't. 

Keri [00:11:16] Yeah, I feel like I might have tried it into the question of what decision. So. So I sorry I did that. You can tell that this isn't unscripted, it's scripted, but an unscripted show... 

Maggie [00:11:28] Which is the best way to do a show. 

Keri [00:11:29] So but I want to give you mentioned Wildsparq. I want to give him a direct shout out that that's how we met Maggie, because we work with a client who uses Wildsparq and it's a great leadership training. So I encourage people to to check it out. And the fact that they support you shows how much they appreciate flexibility and a holistic person at work, like how great is that culture? So I love that freedom. 

Maggie [00:11:55] And I want to give a quick shout out to. So like my CEO Cord Sachs, when he created Wildsparq and then our sister company, Fire, who does recruiting, he has said from the beginning he wanted to create a culture where no individual had to choose between going to their sons or daughters, baseball game, football game, whatever it is, and work. He wanted to create a space where you can do both. And you weren't sacrificing the moments with your family or in your personal life. You weren't sacrificing those areas for work, things that will always be there. So I love that about Kord. He is a family man. He's got six kids. He supports all of our individual personal areas. And I mean, he's our number one fan. The amount of voicemails that I have gotten throughout the season from him just you know, Maggie, I saw the number with the family family say hi to Maggie and they're all yelling in the back. I mean, it's just the best environment to work. It really is. 

Keri [00:12:58] How I just that is and the fact that you found that after I so focused and you found a place that encourages you. Yes. How wonderful that the universe and your we talked about this earlier. Your faith is so important that God brought you both together. Like, that's so beautiful. I'm so leaders. It is. You can do both. Right. You can be one make money and you can treat your people well. OK, enough of that. 

Maggie [00:13:26] Amen. Amen. Amen.

Keri [00:13:28] OK, so the big question then is what is the decision that you made that change the trajectory of your life and what are some of those qualities you use to help you make that decision? 

Maggie [00:13:40] Absolutely not. And I love this question and I think everybody has had a moment in their life that they can lean on. And it doesn't even have to be huge at the moment. That's the one thing that I thought I was like, it doesn't have to be a big like, oh, this is this is the moment. And so for me, I actually I chose to and I'll talk more about one. But no one thing in my life becoming a Christian absolutely has changed my life forever. And it's a struggle, but also the joys that are found in it also. So no one thing in my life for sure, but the what I'll talk about today is making the decision to go into therapy and counseling for a long time. Still still do that. And it looks a little bit. It now, but I started that in 20, I believe 17 or 2016 and 2017, and I've done it ever since and it was the best decision that I've ever made. And I guess from the charge qualities, I mean, I think it goes into all of them, but the two that fit me were humility and resiliency. So I definitely came to a really low point after the Olympics. They call it the Olympic hangover. And I felt it one hundred percent. And I didn't realize a lot of other Olympic athletes had felt that I did feel so alone. I wasn't performing well. I was injured. You know, things just were not my expectations that I had had, which I feel like were maybe unreasonable at the time. But I just didn't know that I wasn't meeting any of those expectations. I felt like people were expecting a lot of me and I wasn't reaching that either. You know, I was having a ton of identity issues at that time and absolutely was going in with some eating, not an eating disorder, but going towards that direction for sure. And so, you know, just the resiliency of getting knocked down and figuring out how do we get back up, how do we, you know, address the actual issues. And I think that was definitely with the humility is understanding there is a problem here and we need to start working on ourself, even if that means taking Javelin out of the picture, because it did come to a point in twenty seventeen where I was having anxiety a lot around, you know, just Jablin in general and even walking into the track, I would start almost having a panic attack. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't do this. So the thing that gave me the most joy at the time now became the biggest source of pain in my life. And so I think humility and resiliency really is what drove me in the direction of seeking some help. 


Keri [00:16:33] So, Maggie, thank you for that for two decisions now. So I'm going to go back to the first one. Yes. But becoming a Christian. So tell me, I mean, Kelly and I are from the Midwest as well, and there's a lot of the people go to church on Sunday and all that stuff. So you're in Nebraska. Let's assume you were like, what religion you then to become a Christian like, yep, we're going to be like, what was that transformation family? And when did you do that? And the timing? 

Maggie [00:17:03] Yeah. So I thought this is always an interesting question because I do believe that I was raised in a great household that was a Christian household. So my my family's Catholic. We lived right across the street from the Catholic Church, like literally went to Catholic school, Catholic school. Catechism and all the Catholic ones, you understand your feeling, some Catholic guilt on your side as well. 

Keri [00:17:31] That's so sweet. I am not overly religious, but I feel like I feel guilt from a lot of them. So, yeah, I would.  

Maggie [00:17:39] You know what? I'm not knocking on the Catholic religion. My mom is still Catholic. My family is. And that's fine. They have great relationships. I didn't think anything about you know, I did not make the connection of Catholicism and Christianity. I didn't really to be very transparent here. I did not. I did not understand God's love and grace specifically and the grace of Jesus until I started transitioning away from Catholicism into more of a non-denominational setting of a church and community. And that was during college. So right around 20, probably 15, 14, 15 is when I started making that transition and journey. I believe that I was Catholic and I. Follow the rules and rules equaled, you know, love and rule in my mind. Now, I'm not saying that that is what Catholicism is, because I don't believe that that is what they're meaning to teach. However, that was what was taught to myself and my sister, who also has transitioned away from Catholicism. And I just felt like I wasn't I didn't have a relationship. There was no relationship with Christ. And it was go to church on Sunday, follow these rules. These things don't eat these things, follow this know, go to this holy day like I was doing all those things. And not that I had a a bad understanding of who God was and who Jesus was. I just didn't have the full understanding. And so if we're going to go to accuracy, which is one of your others, I think that's what I was seeking as well, was I want to know who Jesus is. I want to know who God is and what he what he says about me and and how he loves and what does Grace look like and do these if I don't follow these things, like do I lose that where in my mind I think I had associated that, you know, following Catholicism and so making the transition and trying to understand who God is and what what Christ did for us, I think just allowed me to. Man, just want to follow what Christ has said and the the I don't want to use the world rules, but the principles that he's laid out for us, it makes me so in love with who Jesus is. And I want to just proclaim his name above everything and that, you know, bringing this back to Javelin, I don't like talking about my accomplishments without using God as the overarching kind of orchestrator behind what's going on, because I truly believe that that's what's happening. And if I can be a mouthpiece to just proclaim who he is, that's what I feel like I'm put on this earth to do. And a javelin, the weirdest event in track and field, if that is the and really the most odd gift to give someone. That is my gift. I will steward that and I will use that as the platform to proclaim God's name and just bring people closer to Jesus. And I think that's what my purpose is right now, and that's what I want my purpose to be. It's not to throw as far as I possibly can. It's to do the best that I can with this gift so that I can bring people closer to Jesus or at least show share my story. 

Keri [00:21:15] That is so beautiful the way you said that. And I think what was interesting to me, listening, because your second decision was I'm going to go to therapy. I think the pattern for me, for both of those is you're so curious. So you're like, well, right there is like after your parents are like, yeah, she's curious. All right. Just curious. But but being curious meant you going, huh? Well, this Catholicism seems OK. That's fine. But there's more I want to be accurate. I want to find out what's going on. And the same thing when you are struggling so much with I'm Jablin, I'm at the Olympics. I mean, this is easily see Olympic hangover because it's like planning a wedding a million times more. And after that event, because it is an event after the event and it's, what, 10 seconds, 20 seconds, 30 seconds or something a minute as all of this work and then aren't what it's done. And so for you being so curious and going, why am I doing this? Why am I feeling this way? Why do I have why is Javelin now giving me panic attacks? And you're so curious. And that's what led you to, say, their Catholicism? No, I want to move over here because the deeper relationship you're like you're always looking for the deeper meaning, which is what you did in your podcast, which what you did in your religion and then what you did with therapy. So let's get to that point of therapy. So we've had a couple people talk about that on this podcast. What was kind of do you remember the the the moment was it you're like, oh, my God, it's really impairing my social functioning, like for other people, for other people who are struggling. And we did talk earlier about before the show just how much mental health is necessary. Talk about right now a lot of people struggling. Kelly and I were on a call where so many companies, the biggest thing used to be I'm leaving because I don't like my manager. And now that's number to now. But no one was. I'm stressed out. So. So what did you kind of what was going on with you were you're like, that's it. I'm going now. I can't. Yeah. Anymore. 

Maggie [00:23:32] So it's funny and not embarrassing to say, but I would say the straw that broke the camel's back was that I had a really horrible breakup and which is just like I don't do it all. The obviously there are other things happening that were much deeper than that. But I think that was the straw that broke the camel's back. And you know what? The best thing that could have happened to me, looking back, I'm in an incredible relationship now as someone who I love and I get to do the sport with. He coaches me and Javelin. He is my best friend and he was my best friend at Texas A&M. We were on the team together for six years, never dated or anything, but then kind of found each other after we matured, I think. So only God's provision could have put that together, but went through this horrible breakup with somebody who at the time I was just kind of so in love with. And I think that was what set it off because now Olympics is over. I don't know what my next steps are. I feel like there's a ton of expectation on me. I was told that I was supposed to be this and that, and that didn't happen. I now am not a part of a team. Dynamic, which I was taking care of for four years as part of the university, so now I'm on my own. All my friends are kind of graduating and moving on with their life and leaving. And then I am injured as an athlete. And then I got broken up with. So it felt extremely lonely and I did not know who I was. At this point, I felt like I was Maggie the Olympian or Maggie the javelin thrower. And I just wanted to know who Maggie was. And I didn't know who Maggie was without achievement and success. And when that wasn't happening, I. I was I was losing it. I was crumbling. And so I sought out I talked to my friends first and just said, I need help. I am not in a good headspace or mindset. I can barely make it through my day without crying or having a panic attack. I don't know what to do. Can you help me? And so my incredible friends, they connected me with a Christian counselor who I love and would still work with if I didn't move to Birmingham. But she was incredible. And she we did so much work on breaking down identity. She asked hard questions that I was used to skirting around most of my life and she would not let me. I love a very good therapist. That's a great therapist I talked about earlier. You know, I was dealing with some eating and just a lot of body body issues, which I think happens a lot with female athletes, if not addressed, obviously. And so I did a ton of work around that. And just so thankful, I mean, I was seeing her weekly and, you know, it's like the first probably three weeks I would just walk in and cry and I would just cry. And I was in so much pain and it was just like, I don't know what to do. I don't know what my next steps are. Everybody keeps saying, I'm supposed to be this, I'm supposed to be that. And that's not happening. And, you know, there was there was some, many, many, many fame and people just knowing who you are and all that kind of stuff. And that wasn't there anymore. And I think that I let that consume me at the time. And, you know, I talked a lot in different interviews that I was not mature. I was not I do not think that I was mature enough to handle what was happening in 2016. And I needed I needed time to go through therapy and understand who I was and what I wanted out of life and really whose I am, which is Christ in order to continue in the sport. And if success comes and it's even more than in 2016 at this point and I don't know if I told you guys, but I achieved one of my goals. I set the American record a few weeks ago, you guys that which was one of my goals that I've always set the best I've ever thrown. And you know, I think in 2016 that would have consumed me and I would have been crushed by any expectation moving forward. But because of the work I've been able to do, I know that it's not the end all be all in that that is not my purpose in life was not to throw that. No, that's not that's not what this is about. And I think that that's been a huge, I guess, change in where I want my career to take me and what I want to accomplish. I think that the mindset needed to to change. 

Keri [00:28:54] I first just listening to you thinking how I kept just thinking how young forever because you're in college. So our brains aren't even to and we're all make like dumb mistakes. Yeah. In college that I wish none of them were recorded for the younger generation because I got my recorded. That's all I have to fight with. You were so young with this incredible amount of pressure that even if you had, I just think about people and and and people in your situation of just even if you had the most perfect upbringing, like, let's just pretend it was the matter, because the amount of pressure that the Olympics and how could you not start to think all you are is a javelin thrower, like it's so enmeshed that there's no way you can tease those out. And so what I love to come full circle because I want to talk about what advice you have for people. What I love is and again, because we didn't plan this, I said. Earlier, like how well-rounded you are and my love is, you're like, I really worked hard at a girl, like I really it's hard to be this well rounded and how successful, more successful you are now that you've given yourself grace. Like, you know, I throw I throw a big stick, looks like a toothpick, but I throw this I throw this really cool. It's only a part of my life and I can be successful. And it's going to be this wonderful platform for me to talk about what I'm really passionate about and how much work you give people hope that if they're in it, cry, that if they're in it, they can come out of it. So when we talk about not crying on this, OK, So what advice do you have for people when you are making decisions? 

Maggie [00:30:52] No one, and this is something that my my one of my bosses, Josh Etriss, he taught me and he was like, you make your decisions through community. You need your people around you. And it doesn't have to be a large group. But you need people to speak that you trust, to speak honesty into your life, to ask you hard questions and that you believe in. So for me, that is surrounding myself with with strong Christian people who I trust and love to tell me and ask me hard questions of, OK, what what are the repercussions if you do this in this? And so I will not make a decision without my community at this point who know me, love me and know my struggles. I think that's the other part. They need to know who you who you are and what your struggles are so that they can help guide you. So that's that's a big one for me. And then the second one is talking about mental health. I think everybody should have a counselor or a therapist. And I I know that that may not always be accessible. And I totally understand that. I wish that it was accessible to everyone and that it wasn't there was never a pay barrier or anything like that, because I think everyone struggles and everyone needs somebody to talk to. And mental illnesses is something that's in my family a lot. And we talked about that where there's a lot of anxiety that is in my family. And I think that if you are trying to handle it by yourself, it's going to it's going to crush you. It's and it's it's not you're not I hate saying this because I feel like it's harsh, but I'm a pretty direct person. You're not going to make it if you're trying to do it by yourself. And I know that. And it's and I just want to continue just to say, like, you are so loved. It is there is no stigma around mental health. Like there are people I think are empowered to hear other people's stories of saying, yeah, this is what was happening to me, and this is why I went into counseling. This is why I went into therapy. And this is how it's helped me. And I think that we need to share those those stories and we need to continue to lean into and to just mental health. If you want to talk about providing resources and financial backing, I think we need to move in that direction, because I think that that is the number one thing that most people are facing every single day is just their mental health. And so to me, if you have the ability to talk to someone, absolutely do it. 100%. 

Keri [00:33:36] I love it, love it, love it, love it. It should be. Everyone gets a therapist, right? There's a chicken in every pot. Everyone to your therapist. And I think it's so important. And you're right. Think about all the physical health stuff we talk about. Like you have a cold. I have, you know, like we always ask about that. But no one really talks about mental health. 

Maggie [00:33:56] Exactly. 

Keri [00:33:57] I love that you're talking about it because I'll tell people, like, of course, I went to therapy and we put our son in it. When we made the transition, we moved out here because part of it is, you know, there's always good help. But I also want him, especially as a boy, to go. Therapy is no big deal. And it's great to talk to someone now. Of course he does. He's like it did nothing for me, but he's sure. Yeah. Yeah. But he'll know, right. He's imprinted that. Oh, this is fine. Like get you go and then you talk to someone, you leave. It's no big deal. 

Maggie [00:34:31] So yeah. Yeah. I was going to say one of the things that I you know, this is just even happened. So Naomi Osaka, she is the best in the world at this point. Come now. And she pulled out of I think it was the French Open and now Wimbledon. That's when it's because of mental health, because she is saying, no, no, no, no, no. This is not this is not what is going to help me long term. I need to take care of me and I need to put that into check into perspective in order to continue in this sport, maybe long term. And I think that in the past that and even I think she has faced some unwarranted backlash around that. But I think that in the past that would have been heavily criticized. And now I I think people are more understanding. I truly do. And empowered to see the best athlete in the world, say, Wimbledon. Sorry, I am not going to compete here, which is the highest honor that you can win that achievement. And she's saying, no, that's not that's not going to be it for me. I can't do that right now. I can't do that right now. And I'm going to take care of me because I love the sport and I don't want this to be you know, I don't want this to be at my detriment. So I think that is so. Powerful. 

Keri [00:35:51] Yes, those people in high level like you, because you do have a platform like her, they have a platform and she is the highest paid athlete, I thought female for sure. It went for her to say no. And I think, too sometimes. But we stigmatize mental health, but especially with athletes, because in a way, you're right. You just you're the machine and you do it and you're not have any other feelings or emotions. I know Kelly is passionate about tennis, what, almost on the Olympic team for tennis. Right. I'm so super close. She was ridiculously close. That's incredible. 

Kelly [00:36:28] That's very that's hilarious. Maybe for watching tennis. I used to play, but I mean, watching tennis. But yes, that was about it. And Wimbledon rules talk about rules in Wimbledon. I mean, that's all rules. Yeah. And we just the being in England and everything. So I think what's so powerful about your story is how incredibly intentional you were in not letting even if there was a voice in your head or someone telling, you know, not I'm not going to do this or I'm not going to do that, or you weren't listening to any of those outside voices, you were truly blazing a trail for yourself. So you know what? I'm uncomfortable and I don't like this. And I'm going to do the hard work. I'm going to do the heavy lifting. And it just shows how tenacious you are. And it just it's so incredibly powerful. You know, I'm tearing up because you share such beautiful I mean, the way you package your your message is just so eloquent. And I think one of our most powerful exchanges we had was over email when I sent you feedback about something. And it was not it wasn't overly it was just, you know, we might consider the module going forward. And your response on this podcast episode has brought that full in full focus of how your response could be as genuine and authentic. And just purely I mean, you were so open in a way that I haven't ever I haven't ever received a response from feedback in a long time. And it was something to wear. And I looked at each other and said, this is something this is like a model for how you how you receive feedback, because it was it was not about you, Maggie, as an individual. It was something completely different. And you never made it about yourself in any way. It was just so gracious and kind. And I just was left feeling overwhelmed with with with gratitude that we know, you. 

Maggie [00:38:29] Ohh...I thank you for saying that you're making me tear up. I I appreciate you saying that a lot. And I just want you guys to know I love working with both of you. It is you have challenged a lot of the way that I think and how think other people who I work with, what they how they think and how we can get better. And I think that's the number one thing I am thankful for in this job, is getting to work with people who make me better. And I think that you guys are are those people in my life to to challenge a lot of areas that I think and how I feel and how I treat people. So thank you guys so much. And sorry if you hear some knocking in the background, somebody's door. 

Kelly [00:39:14] No worries. You just heard my dog bark so great. You know that you all we're animal lovers, people ever. So you just again, thank you so much. We will we are looking forward to watching you on the Olympics and in the trials they've marched. I have marked June 26th on my calendar because I believe that's when the javelin event is happening. Right. So yes. 

Maggie [00:39:38] 6/25 and 6/26, yep. 

Kelly [00:39:40] Awesome. Well, we wish you all the luck in the world, but 

Maggie [00:39:44] Send thoughts and prayers my way. 

Kelly [00:39:46] Lots of players coming your way, girlfriend. And if you would like to connect with Maggie, I think you can see a bazillion reasons why you'd want to do that very thing. Please do that on LinkedIn at Maggie Malone will also send her website information, too, because she is one of the coolest profile pics I've ever seen. And you will see it in social media postings, too. So thank you, Maggie, again, so much for sharing your story. You're just such a beautiful person inside and out, and we just adore you. 

Maggie [00:40:14] Back at you, ladies. I love you. 

Kelly [00:40:17] Thank you. 

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