reCHARGE® Your Life

Ep67: Christian de la Huerta reCHARGED

September 14, 2022 Dr. Keri Ohlrich & Kelly Guenther
reCHARGE® Your Life
Ep67: Christian de la Huerta reCHARGED
Show Notes Transcript

Fun fact  - did you know that 99% of the atoms found in the stars are the same atoms made in our bodies? Christian de la Huerta shared the book, The Universe is a Green Dragon by Brian Swimme, PhD, as a source he goes to when he wants to expand his thinking as it focuses on cosmic generosity. From living a life that was enviable, within a 9 month period, Christian quit his job, sold his car and condo, gave away most of his belongings and decided to embark on his spiritual journey. The risk was high, the reward - living a fulfilling life and providing others the path to helping them live theirs.

With 30 years of experience, Christian de la Huerta is a sought-after spiritual teacher, personal transformation coach and leading voice in the breathwork community. He has traveled the world offering inspiring and transformational retreats combining psychological and spiritual teachings with lasting and life-changing effects. An award-winning, critically acclaimed author, he has spoken at numerous universities and conferences and on the TEDx stage. His new book, Awakening the Soul of Power, was described by multiple Grammy Award–winner Gloria Estefan, as “a balm for the soul of anyone searching for truth and answers to life’s difficult questions” and has received a Nautilus Book Award and a Nonfiction Book Award. 

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Keri [00:00:14] Welcome to the Recharge Your Life podcast with me Dr. Keri Ohlrich and Kelly Guenther. We are thrilled to talk to people who have made a decision that recharges their lives. Often they push themselves out of their comfort zones and took risks. We want to know about that decision point. Why did they make that decision? And most importantly, how can we learn from them? Kelly and I are passionate HR professionals, and together we co-founded our consulting firm Abbracci Group. We have talked to amazing people throughout our careers and listen to them as they make decisions that change their lives and knew that these inspirational stories would help others. And why did we call it reCHARGE®? It's based on a book I coauthored called The Way of the HR Warrior. And in it, we have a leadership model CHARGE which stands for Courage, Humility, Accuracy, resiliency, goal oriented and exemplary. We know that people use one or more of these qualities to help them make their decisions, and we want to learn from them. Now sit back, listen, and be inspired by these stories and then do something to recharge your life. Let's get to it. 

Kelly [00:01:21] Hi, everyone. It's Kelly. We're so excited to have Christian de la Huerta as our special guest. With 30 years of experience. Christian de la Huerta is a sought after spiritual teacher, personal transformation coach and leading voice in the breath work community. He's traveled the world, offering inspiring and transformational retreats, combining psychological and spiritual teachings with lasting and life changing effects. An award winning, critically acclaimed author. He has spoken at numerous universities and conferences and on the TEDx stage. His new book, Awakening the Soul of Power, was described by multiple Grammy Award winner Gloria Estefan as a "balm for the soul of anyone searching for truth and answers to life's difficult questions." It's also received a Nautilus Book Award and a nonfiction book award. Christian, thank you so much for joining us on our podcast. We always like to start by asking what you do when you want to expand your thinking. 

Christian [00:02:21] Well, thank you, Kelly and Keri, for having me on the show. I really appreciate the opportunity and have been looking forward to speaking with you. You know what I what I do to expand my thinking is first thing is just drop everything and go go inside, go with it. There's a book also that I always recommend because it's, it's. It's called :The Universe is a Green Dragon", and it was written by Brian Swimm, a cosmologist. And what he does in the book is he applies some of the principles that govern the cosmos to the human experience, because much to the surprise of some humans, we are part of the cosmos. So we're going to be ruled by the same principles that govern the stars. So, for example, he talks about cosmic generosity and he talks about the cosmic generosity of a star of a supernova that when it explodes, when it gives up its form, when it gives up its life, what happens? You know, suns and moons and stars, galaxies are born. And he says that and this isn't pretty poetic, you know, woo woo California stuff. It's a scientific fact that 99% of the atoms in our bodies are exactly the same atoms that are found in the stars, so that we can say literally that we are made of stars stuff that we are star beings. So that means that we too have that cosmic generosity wired into us. We have that desire to to give ourselves away. And I love that concept. And there are other others that he talks about that are always help me remember and reconnect and have a broader perspective. 

Keri [00:04:10] Thank you, Christian, for being on our and our podcast. I'm so thrilled that you that you've joined us and I can't wait to hear more from you. The universe is a green dragon that we're all have the cosmic the makeup of the stars. What other thing when you said you go within, what is there something immediately? Like, how do you know to say stop, drop things go within. Like, how do you know to to take that pause for yourself? 

Christian [00:04:39] Well, whenever I don't have clarity about something so that I have to make a choice. Like even now, you know, where to kind of in the midst of a nomadic phase. And the way they live is like I'm always very tuned in to where the energies are guiding me, where life seems to be taking me. So I'm always paying attention to the signs. And so if I've gotten distracted, if I've gotten too busy of how far I'm drawn, deeply drawn into a project like a book or something. Then I'll stop what I'm doing and I'll pause and I'll just I'll either go for a walk in nature or just, you know, sit. But check in with myself and see what kind of what kind of signs might have I been missing? So for example, I've been in a nomadic phase for the last almost going on a year now and October would be a year as I've been in Quito for the last six months in Ecuador. And then suddenly, like just noticing things happening, you know, there's those places that that I've been subleasing is not available after September. The possibility that was going to happen. That was going to that was going to lead to possible clients here in Ecuador is not going to happen anymore because of unforeseen circumstances. The possibility of somebody lending me a place in Fort Lauderdale for a couple of months comes up all within the same week and a couple of more things. So that's when I say, okay, something's happening here. Oh, I was going to apply for two years visa. And the visa that I applied for is no longer available, so I can still apply for another one. But when I look at the whole thing and all the signs that the whole gestalt of it, then it's like, okay, I guess it's time to to look at what's next. Maybe it's not Quito, maybe it's not Ecuador. I don't have exact clarity as to what's what's next. But there are a couple of possibilities brewing. So that's a that's what I do. I stop and then I go within and then I observe what's going on. 

Keri [00:06:52] And I would say you're also sound so flexible to it as well. So you're like, well, maybe Ecuador is not going to work right now. And so the path is is different. And so how do you balance maybe having kind of this is the goal, I'm going to do this in a year, but then also taking in, huh, maybe the universe is kind of shifting things around and I have to be flexible on that goal. Like, do you have to battle? Is that a hard struggle for you've always been kind of flexible, like, I'll see where it takes me. 

Christian [00:07:24] Well, you know, I think it's something that I learned along the way, you know, that just to flow it, to go with the flow, rather than trying to force it to the way that I think it should be. And so for the last years of of as part of my teaching, as part of my own personal development, I've gotten very clear about how the ego mind works in each of us. And it's the more that we realize the ego's machinations and its shenanigans and part of its characteristics is that it's control freak and it's trying to control and micromanage not only every part of our lives, but everybody else's lives around us. Once I begin to, you know, this, identify with that and redefine with the greater part of who we are, then it's becomes easier to go with the flow and to to follow the river rather than, you know, swimming against the stream. Mm hmm. 

Keri [00:08:20] I I've had to think about that all day. The ego and it's shenanigans. So what's about to end? It is the ultimate micromanager, so. And no one likes micromanaging. I've done thousands of interviews in that one time, and someone said, I really want to work for a micromanager. I love that not one person has ever said that. 

Christian [00:08:46] I can't even imagine. 

Keri [00:08:47] No, no, no one never says that. So what is then? Let's get to the big question. So what is the decision that you made or was made for you that changed the trajectory of your life? And what are some of those charge qualities that you use to help you throughout that decision? 

Christian [00:09:04] But I love your charge qualities. Humility is one of the qualities that I always look for, like in a teacher, somebody who in order for somebody to have credibility for me as a teacher, as a guide, they have to have humility. And then I think courage and resilience are two that, you know, people ask me, well, how did you get to where you are? I think those are two. One is courage, you know, doing things and have done things that I didn't want to do that my little ego from its limited perspective, didn't want to do. So I know that I've made and continue to make choices to serve the higher good, the higher part of me and to serve others. And, you know, resilience like I can't tell you how many times over the last 30 years I had a created an event, a workshop, and four people showed up. And, you know, the resilience of even the pandemic. You know, my my income went to a screeching halt after 30 years of doing retreats and workshops, suddenly unable to do anything, particularly because I always use Breathwork as a healing tool in my retreats and my workshops. And even though we needed to be breathing, we couldn't be breathing together in one room. And so but a couple of blessings from that experience of the pandemic for me, for one, I got to see how deeply established I am and trust like not once did I go into fear about how am I going to survive, how am I going to pay the bills? It's like I just knew that things were going to work out one way or another. And then the other two benefits, because I was so busy, you know, flying, I went from a hundred thousand miles on an airplane to zilch. But the benefit of that, the blessing, the silver lining around the cloud for that is that I, I got to finish I got to put my butt down and get this book that I've been brewing in my head for ten years. Probably got it out of my head and got it published. And then the other thing that I've known for years I needed to do was create virtual programing, you know, people from other sides of the world who may never come to my one of my library retreats. And so COVID forced my hand. And now I've got a year long coaching program and I've got I'm just launching now a four week more accessible, quicker results thing. Program also also virtual. So I'm grateful. 

Keri [00:11:43] What was it that when you look back, is it COVID that made a significant change in that kind of trajectory of your of your life, of doing making, writing the book and doing the virtual workshops? Or was there something before that that maybe really tugged on that courage and that resilience then humility? 

Christian [00:12:03] I think there were there were definitely earlier points like, yeah, 30 years ago, yeah, this COVID thing just had me shift to create, to create, to write this book and to create virtual programing. But the real dramatic change came probably 32 years ago now where, you know, I had a very enviable job. I was working in marketing and community relations for a psychiatric and and addictions hospital in in Miami, in South Florida. And. Just got very disillusioned. You know, I started to see people, things done that didn't feel right to me or the most ethical like people put impatient with when they could have been treated outpatient just because they had the benefit. And so I started to lose. You know. Koepp I started to get disillusioned with that industry. And so I started to. To question, like, what do I really want from life? And and again, my life was very enviable. I got to make my own schedule. I got to wine, wine and dine potential referral sources. But but I got to the point that it seemed the more that I had had a beautiful condo on the water and in South Beach, right when the Renaissance was was happening there. And it seemed like the more that I had, the more that the more that I was sought after socially or professionally, that I kept thinking, there's got to be more, there's got to be more to life. And then I went through this really intense. Process of getting clear just by myself, like, what do I really want from life? And as a result of that, I think I. The process was so intense that I got so clear in relationship to the universe that within six months of me doing that process, I found I was led to just one of those synchronicity things. I was led to this teacher from whom I learned breathwork, from whom I learned like how the ego works and how it keeps us in a self-made prison of fear and lack and limitation and projections and victimization and all that kind of stuff. And within nine months of me starting to do that work, I quit my job, saw my condo, saw my car, gave away most of my belongings or sold them, and went off on a spiritual journey. Never, never look back. That was the last job I ever had for somebody else that I worked for a corporation. 

Keri [00:14:40] Oh, my gosh. When you were growing up, did you have did you was it I'm going to school and I'm going to work in this field and this is kind of what we do. Or did you have other role models maybe of this type of journey? 

Christian [00:14:59] Well. I always had a sense of service and I and I can't I think I came in with some innate gifts, the ability to listen. Like, even as a kid, people would always come to me for help, for advice, even older people. But I translated that call it a sense of mission, call it whatever you want to call it in different ways. So first I thought I was going to be a priest. I wanted to I was raised in a very Catholic family, and I went to a Catholic high school. And so first I thought I was going to be a priest, but then realized that that religion didn't have enough room for me. Then I thought, okay, my dad was a psychiatrist, so I studied psychology. I didn't want to go to med school, but I but I thought the studying psychology was was the way to go. But then I also discovered that, especially once I discovered breathwork. That has shifted my my perceptions about that. And with all due respect to psychotherapy, you know, in the right hands, with clear goals and a clear end in sight. You know, it can it can be profoundly helpful and transformational and healing. And we all know that you can also sit on somebody's couch for five, ten, 20, 30 years rehashing the same old crap and nothing happens and understanding what happened to us and why we do the things we do. Certainly better than not understanding it. But the problem is that those traumas that happened to us in childhood that don't no longer live in the mind. So in some cases, like again, in some hands, it can really work. But in some cases, we just get stuck in rehashing the mental at a mental level because that stuff has now been some analyzed and lives in the body. And so no amount of talking about it is ever going to be able to clear it. And and so so what I do now is sort of my own thing. It has some sort of psycho spiritual approach, which is the thing that that I didn't find. I mean, I think now you can find more of it. But when I was going to school, there was sort of this line in psychotherapy, you did not get into the spiritual right. And I think now, you know, people are definitely weaving it more together and bridging those. But that was missing for me, too. So my approach now has some elements of psychology, and it has some elements of spirituality, some understanding of the ego from Eastern perspective. So I blend I blend different things now. 

Keri [00:17:44] Yeah. As I say, it's very holistic because you're right, when I studied psychology as well, it was pretty much very scientific method, kind of not the spiritual as well. They were starting to, like you said, start to look at the whole person, but not not really. It's a it's more of a of a sickness model. Right. Sickness fixation? Not really quite. Look at that. At the whole person. So you kind of had this path. I'm getting the vibe of Christian. You have this path of focus and I'm priest. I'm going to serve psychology. And so what it it's funny, we just recorded a podcast just before yours and it was a person saying kind of the same thing. I have everything. And the more I receive, the more I had, the more money air, the more accolades, the emptier. Almost like, why am I doing this? It's that. And. And so you have this moment. And then you said you started to look inward. How did you find the breath work? You already had this psychotherapy mindset that you already had that part. So like, how did you kind of turn and say, hmm, the breath work in finding this this teacher? And what did that do for you that was missing from from what you had? 

Christian [00:18:59] I think, you know, just I went through I what I did was get clear that I wanted more. And I had and I spent a weekend by myself. I didn't watch TV, I didn't listen to music. I just kind of beat in the question I asked my partner at the time to, you know, that I just needed the time alone so I could walk on the beach or do something like that. But I just li lived in the question like, what do I want from life? So I made a list of I 200 things and I didn't evaluate it. It could be like really about making a difference or it could be really petty about a place that I wanted to travel to once. And then I kind of ran out of stuff to say, and then I went on the second phase, which was a real difficult one. What do I really want from? I've started eliminating, eliminating, and I think I got it down to three and I don't even know where that list went. But I think I think the things were like I wanted to fulfill my potential as a human being physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, which I had neglected for a few years. I wanted to discover my my purpose, what I was really here for at a mission level, at a soul level. And then I wanted to travel and see the world and work with people from all different walks of life. And I think it was that process of getting so clear that the universe heard it, heard, heard my intention and in a very synchronous way, like I was suntan, you know, sitting out by the pool and somebody came. Somebody that I knew but didn't really know. Like a friend of a friend kind of thing. And saw that I was reading something pseudo spiritual. And so we started to talk and told me about breath work and. I at some level I must have known because I was like, Yeah, tell me when and how much? And I'm there and change my life changed my life because it was missing. It gave me this spiritual component that I was missing with my my psychology because I had thrown out the baby with a baptismal water. Because, you know, I didn't know there was a difference between religion and spirituality. 

Keri [00:21:15] Yes. 

Christian [00:21:16] And then I discovered as I started to search within and started to look eastward and the indigenous traditions and new thought realized that I could find my own expression, my own spiritual connection. 

Keri [00:21:31] I love it. First, I love the practicalness of, All right. I'm going to be quiet. I'm going to make this list. And then I'm going to go back and kind of call the list and everything. And I just love this, like, in a way that you've married the extremely practical list. Cut it three things now to this beautiful spiritual practice. And you remind me of when my husband kind of the same thing who said, I don't like this art that I'm in? Just like the psychotherapy. Like it doesn't quite hit it. And he was like, I need something else. And he obviously opened the magazine and there was an article about an artist that he's like, That's the person that I want to study under. And it changed his life, just like you in the in the breath work. And so it's so if you open yourself up like you said, and get some clarity, it is amazing how sometimes the answer pops right there and you have to be open to listening to it. 

Christian [00:22:29] Yes. And it takes the courage. Right, because I quit my job. So my condo and everything away, except for my books and my Armani suits, which tells you a little bit about my attachments. But my. 

Keri [00:22:46] Giveaway, those. 

Christian [00:22:48] My family and my friends were freaking out because I was I was giving up an enviable life, very enviable life. And to the logical mind, to the ego mind, it was very threatened. And so people were freaking out. They thought I was joining a cult because I worked with this woman for five years as a teacher, and then she assumed the role of the guru in a traditional eastern sense. And and so people were freaking out. And yet I knew. So I had to have enough of that courage to do what I felt I was being called to do. No matter what anybody else apart, nobody would ever know. But I didn't have to. I couldn't buy into other people's fears. 

Keri [00:23:30] Yeah, I was going to say. How did you manage that? I love how you said I couldn't buy into other people's fears. And how did you just kind of tell your family and your friends, like, it's okay? Like, what were some of those conversations like, Christian? 

Christian [00:23:46] Well, I got to tell you that my family and a couple of other people who were, you know, going on this journey, they'd stay there, even organized, like, what do you call it? An intervention. Intervention? Yeah, with the Cult Awareness Network, because they I mean, like, I'd even know at that time I didn't know what a guru was or an ashram. And so I understood. I understood that people were freaking out because I was just starting to learn. But. You know, I had I had to trust. And I remember one time my teacher said something to me because I was when we were driving cross-country or something, and I was sad, saddened that there I was, you know, like following my. My mission and getting myself free from fear and from limitation. And they were my family was my friends were freaking out. And she said something to me that was really, really wise. Two things, actually. One was what she said to choose the word God if that word doesn't work for you. She, you know, you put love, replace it with love. So what sort of God of war or what's of love on this side or the process of transformation will be there on the other side. And sure enough, I mean, my family is you know, we're still incredibly close and incredibly tight. The friends that matter, the friends that that out there still know we're still friends, even if we don't believe the same things. We're still friends. So what's of love will survive our personal transformation? Sure. Are there people who are not in my life now that were in my life then? Of course. And, you know, we just went in different directions. We grew in different directions. Mm hmm. The other thing that she said that was really helpful. This, like what? What we're doing as we go into a process of healing, a process of transformation, we're actually impacting our DNA. And I don't know what the number is or how they know that we're not even using like 5% or 10% of of our potential in our DNA, but that we're not using 100%. That's pretty clear to me. And so. You know, they've done studies well, there's split the DNA and they'll do something to it here. And this is scientific stuff. This is not New Age stuff. This is like actual scientific studies where they'll split the DNA and they do something to it here. And the other part of it a thousand miles away will react not only in the same way, but at the same time. Like, how is that possible? Not even Einstein could wrap my mind around them because of the distance. There should be a time lapse, but there isn't. And so I think he called it spooky action at a distance. And so. If we're that interconnected in ways that we don't understand yet, what happens? Whatever happens in my DNA is happening is impacting that DNA that is closest to me. So my family first. But even our DNA, you know, Kelly and Keri, it's like our DNA is like 99.99% identical. Mm hmm. So we're impacting each other. And in fact, 98.4 out of our DNA is identical to chimps, and 50% is identical to bananas. So we can really talk about the interconnectedness of all life in a scientific way, not just in a pretty poetic way. And so those are the two things that allow me to to understand and to have faith, to to trust the process that. That eventually what happened happened, you know. What's up, love is still here. 

Keri [00:27:51] Mhm. That's so beautiful. And I think to what you witnessed and any other people who've been who've changed their lives, it's scary for other people, it makes them think about what's important to them and what they're doing and it kind of breaks that to use that. One of my favorite psycho psych psychology terms that homeostasis of the family. And so everyone has their role and everyone's also do the same thing. And when someone kind of breaks that, it upends the structure and the system and people get weird. It's scary to upend your life and to really do what your purposes. And so it's such a beautiful story that you shared with us. What type of action would you what advice would you give to our listeners if they're asking the same questions and going, Is this it? And what do I need to do with my life to serve a higher purpose or be more true, true to myself? What were some of the actions and advice you have? 

Christian [00:28:54] Well, I mean, trust. Trust the process. Trust your intuition because you're going to go. People who support you are going to people who are going to be freaking out. So ultimately, the answer is going to be within. And so it's a it's a learn to go with it and then also learn like we were talking about before, how to read the signs, how to tune in to the signs. Because when we're in that question and that close relationship with life, with the universe, with spirit, whatever you want to call it, the intelligence of life, we'll get messages like, like, you know, like sometimes we turn on the radio and that song has the exact message that we needed to hear or we're driving. And then a billboard like, Oh, my God, that's that's the answer that I was looking for. Or we just hear the right message from the right person, some stranger on the street or the bus or the subway or whatever. So stay open. Go within. And no like a nude. The depth of view that the power is with it. And that everything in our past, no matter what happened, can be healed, can be overcome and can be transcended. Oh. 

Keri [00:30:11] Absolutely beautiful. I know, Kelly. I could listen to Christian. I'm very aware of how I. My voice is not as calm as yours, Christian. And I'm like, Oh, how can I ever. That's just not me of like, you know, I do that Christian a lot. And so I listen to Christian's voice and like, oh, I could listen to them all day. Kelly, what are your what are your thoughts and and meditative moments with listening to Christian his beautiful story. 

Kelly [00:30:41] Well, my voice certainly isn't that relaxing either. So I can't lay claim to that either, Keri. The two of us will be hysterical together. I'd be like, Oh, my God, can you believe it? Oh, my God. Exactly. I just have to think about how powerful your commitment to your your journey and your belief in. What you wanted to do for yourself that during that entire intervention with the Cult Awareness Network, I have to imagine that that was a pretty intense experience that you and your family went through and you still said, I want to do this right, that that that belief in what you wanted and that you really were destined for something much greater. Mm hmm. That had to have been quite an experience. 

Christian [00:31:31] Yeah. And then to know, to come to continue with that connection is that, you know, after after five years in the in that ashram and that spiritual community, I began to realize that the hierarchical nature of the student disciple relationship was beginning to interfere with my own growth. And so it took me a couple of years to actually leave because I knew I had grown. It was a small community, and I'd grown up pretty rapidly in the organization so that I was the kind of lead lead teacher, the heir apparent and the, you know, the the publisher of publicists, events creator, all that kind of stuff. And and yet it seemed to me that that that that it was actually interfering with my own growth. And so I eventually I just I left and sure enough, it it imploded. But I knew, you know, that was also a very difficult choice. But I knew that if I was going to follow my calling, that I had to leave. And and that's why I you know, courage and resilience are the the two charge qualities that I they kind of kept coming up for me as I was getting ready for for this interview. 

Kelly [00:32:45] Mm. Well in that you're reading into the signs to suggest a certain level of accuracy that you're taking in, in being aware of what's going on around you. Reading the tea leaves, so to speak, kind of picking up on the signals, as you mentioned, so much around the signs and using that sort of intelligence, that part of yourself that you know what's kind of going on around you, you can anticipate. What would you say the impact that that you've made in making this choice, in this decision and offering these workshops and has had on the lives of others? I would imagine that you've done some pretty amazing things in helping people see their own journeys, in reaching their unique destinations. 

Christian [00:33:28] Yeah, that's a good question. That's a beautiful question. And. You know, from a place of humility, because I really do feel humbled by it to to know that. My choices are my teaching and who I am in the world has impacted so many lives and made a difference. And I know because I get the feedback all the time and I have testimonial after testimonial after testimonial. I think that is. That is the best thing that like nothing beats that. I'm glad I don't have to make a choice between my work and sex. But if I did had to make a choice, I have. I don't even have to think about it. It's like I know what I would choose because that's where I get the most meaning. And. And the most satisfaction. And that's where I get to express my purpose. And I think anybody who's who's been listening to to this conversation, I think we've all. I mean, otherwise you wouldn't be here. But I think we all know that there isn't anything any amount of sex, money, power from the perspective of the world, how the power of how the world views power, possessions, that there's not enough of it that's ever going to be what's going to make us happy. Like how many more examples that we need of celebrities, powerful leaders who have all the money, all the power you could want, and they're miserable. The thin skinned one tweet sends them into a tailspin or the rate of addictions, the rate of suicide in those communities. So the more that I live, the more that I'm clear---What does make us happy is giving expression to that unique human potential, that's unique to each one of us. And there isn't anybody out there who's got the same genetics, the same set of experiences, the same set of values, beliefs that make each one of us unique. If we don't give expression to that, ain't nobody else going to do it. And I think for me, for sure, I know that's where fulfillment and happiness lie. 

Kelly [00:35:52] Yes. So powerful. So powerful. And I. I just it's a testimony to you willing to dig in and to do the work to become truly self-aware. That's one of the constant themes that runs through this entire podcast is the self-awareness that people seek. Because to your point, and it's a really poignant one, is it's money is not enough. There's not enough of any one thing. People strive to find out that what makes me happy, what what fulfills me, what makes me feel like I have purpose and makes me get out of bed in morning, makes me feel happy. And often the things that we feel make us happy. Having a great job or having the house, having the X, Y and Z aren't necessarily those things. It's not the tangible, it's often the intangible. And so it takes work and it takes time and it takes a lot of sometimes effort to uncover those things. And so I think you're just a perfect example of what that what the work that's involved in, in getting to the point where you can not only find it for yourself, but you can help others find it for themselves as well. So thank you so much. 

Christian [00:37:06] Beautifully said, beautifully said, beautifully expressed and wrapped up. And and let's throw relationships in there. Like I think we all know now that there isn't anybody out there who's going to make us happy and it's not their job to make us happy. How unfair to put that responsibility on someone else. You are going to make me happy. And so if if that's how we're approaching relationships, hang it up. Hang it up. 

Kelly [00:37:30] Absolutely. Absolutely. The hard work comes from within. And I think you've given everyone some really incredible tools. And speaking of which, we're going to put all of the tools that you've shared and and have on your website, as well as all of your book and all of your great information. Christine, we're going to put it all on our on the notes section of our of our podcast so that everyone will be able to find all of your valuable insights and wisdom, not just obviously within our episode here, but within our show notes. So thank you so much for sharing your story with us. It's so powerful and for sharing your incredibly poignant journey. It's one that I know I have found to be incredibly. Helpful and just just mindful. It just is the experience that I'm coming away with. So we look forward to sharing this episode with all of you. And thank you so much again, Christian, for sharing your story with us. 

Christian [00:38:33] Thank you both so much. Thank you for having me on the show. And thank you for having the show because in your own journeys of saying yes to your calling and having the podcast. Many, many lives are being impacted. So. So thank you. 

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